Topic: what will you do kung fininger k once ng cousin mo? (Read 6410 times)

joanna · « **on:** March 30, 2006, 11:36:09 PM »

hello.. new here... prob lng ng isang kakilala ko... grade 5 daw sya nung una... tpos may anak yung isang 3rd cousin nya... c kuya michael... eh gustong gusto nyang kinakarga yung bata... minsan nung karga nya yung pamangkin nya, dumatimh yung father c kuya michael nga daw... tpos kinuha muna yung anak.. kapag kuha kay clyde sa frend ko, natouch yung breast nya... hnde nya nman daw pinansin kc nga daw, kala nya wala lng... tpos, pagkakuha nya ulit sa bata, gnun ulit... bsta lging gnun... tpos 1 tym daw, sya lng mag isa sa haus nila, pumasok yung cousin nya, tpos habang naghuhugas daw sya ng pinggan, hinawakan yung breast nya, umiwas sya pero ayaw nman sya bitiwan... patinigin lng daw ng dede nya... eh nakulitan n daw siya, hinayaan nya n lng, tpos dinede daw, pinipigilan nya nung una, pero ayaw daw tumigil, eh ang sarap daw... hanggang sa naramdaman niya n lng daw n nakapasok n s short nya yung hands hnggang fininger n sya...

another tym nman, yung isang pinsan nya... antok n antok n daw kc sya so tumabi n sya s mga pinsan nya... na magkakapatid bali, pero since antok n antok n sya, dun sya n patabi sa pinsang nyang guy n c toto... tpos nung madaling araw n daw, nakayakap s knya, hnde nya nman inintindi kc nga kala nya tulog lng.. then nramdaman nya n lng daw n tinaas n daw yung damit nya at bra tpos nilalamas at kinikiss n yung dede nya... hngaang sa pinasok n yung short nya at finifinger n sya.. hnde nman daw sya makapalag kc bka magising mga katabi nila... tpos ang sarap daw....

pano n yun?

ianne_marielle1229 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 13, 2006, 04:10:46 AM »

This is my 1st tym to post hir and eto napili ko
sa kadahilanang hindi ko maintindihan kung bkit
mo pa kailangang problemahin yan kung hindi naman
pala ikaw naka-experience nyan at sabi mo pa eh
nasarapan naman yung kakilala mo so anong problema dun??
In the 1st place pumayag sya magpa-finger sa pinsan nya.

kinky gal · « **Reply #2 on:** April 13, 2006, 04:21:27 AM »

it means gusto nya diba??

so why is it a problem for you then?

TheBachelorGirl · « **Reply #3 on:** April 13, 2006, 10:02:29 AM »

Grabe po ang problema ng kaibigan mo dahil siya ay victim ng sexual abuse, at naging mas mahirap pa ito dahil ito ay ginawa ng mga taong kamag-anak niya, kung kaya't ito ay masasabi ding incest.

Ang sabi po sa Medical Library ay:

"The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect defines childhood sexual abuse as "contact or interaction between a child and an adult when the child is being used for the sexual stimulation of that adult or another person" (10). Childhood sexual abuse may be committed by another minor when that person is either significantly older than the victim (often defined as more than 5 years) or when the abuser is in a position of power or control over the child (10)."

Dahil ang kaibigan niyo po ay hinipuan at hinawakan sa dede, dinede at na-finger ng kaniyang mga pinsan, ang lahat po ito ay sa nasa ilalim ng definition ng sexual abuse mula sa pagkabata hanggang sa siya ay nag- legal age.

Hindi po dapat ma-guilty ang friend mo kung siya ay nasarapan dahil natural lang na makaramdam ang katawan ng ganyang reaction, pero hindi maibabago ang katotohanan na ang ginawa sa kaniya ay mali.

Kakailanganin ng kaibigan mo ang iyong tulong dahil kailangan niyang maglakas loob na magsumbong sa isang pinagkakatiwalaang nakakatanda gaya ng ina, guro, o madre. Kung ito ay nagsimula ng Grade 5 o mas bata pa siya, ito ay maaaring maturing na statutory rape.

Kinuwento sa iyo ng kaibigan mo ang nangyari sa kaniya dahil alam niya, na may hindi nararapat na nangyayari sa kaniya. Sana ay matulungan mo siya. God bless.

tanis · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2006, 03:17:44 PM »

Yup sexual abuse na yung nangyari and pwede nyong ireklamo at kasuhan ang Michael na yun.

By the way, sorry but medyo hindi ako naniniwala na sa kakilala mo nangyari yun .. but syo nangyari yun.
Hmm .. like most people gusto ipasa ang mga nangyari sa kanila.

Ok lang if you want it na ganun ang palabasin mo but minsan baka mas nakakabuti at nakakagaan sa loob mo na aminin na syo nangyari yun. Walang me gusto na mangyari yun at naiintindihan namin yun. Besides we dont know you personally here so it's ok to let it all out here.

fearless_badgurl09 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2006, 03:55:37 PM »

Quote from: tanis on April 17, 2006, 03:17:44 PM

Yup sexual abuse na yung nangyari and pwede nyong ireklamo at kasuhan ang Michael na yun.

By the way, sorry but medyo hindi ako naniniwala na sa kakilala mo nangyari yun .. but syo nangyari yun.
Hmm .. like most people gusto ipasa ang mga nangyari sa kanila.

Ok lang if you want it na ganun ang palabasin mo but minsan baka mas nakakabuti at nakakagaan sa loob mo na aminin na syo nangyari yun. Walang me gusto na mangyari yun at naiintindihan namin yun. Besides we dont know you personally here so it's ok to let it all out here.

in psychology thats what u call projection a kind of defense mechanism. Kung cia man un o hind hayaan na ntin... it her choice eh..

in my opinion i think that girl like it kc its always a girls choice kung mauuwi sa ganong factor o hindi...

sa 2nd base pa lang pwede na cia pumalag eh... kung ayaw talaga nya u can fight back as well.. It doesnt matter kung magcng o marinig ng iba kase ung guy ung nakakahiya dun hindi yung babae

gregorio · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2006, 04:04:20 PM »

Quote from: joanna on March 30, 2006, 11:36:09 PM

hello.. new here... prob lng ng isang kakilala ko... grade 5 daw sya nung una... tpos may anak yung isang 3rd cousin nya... c kuya michael... eh gustong gusto nyang kinakarga yung bata... minsan nung karga nya yung pamangkin nya, dumatimh yung father c kuya michael nga daw... tpos kinuha muna yung anak.. kapag kuha kay clyde sa frend ko, natouch yung breast nya... hnde nya nman daw pinansin kc nga daw, kala nya wala lng... tpos, pagkakuha nya ulit sa bata, gnun ulit... bsta lging gnun... tpos 1 tym daw, sya lng mag isa sa haus nila, pumasok yung cousin nya, tpos habang naghuhugas daw sya ng pinggan, hinawakan yung breast nya, umiwas sya pero ayaw nman sya bitiwan... patinigin lng daw ng dede nya... eh nakulitan n daw siya, hinayaan nya n lng, tpos dinede daw, pinipigilan nya nung una, pero ayaw daw tumigil, eh ang sarap daw... hanggang sa naramdaman niya n lng daw n nakapasok n s short nya yung hands hnggang fininger n sya...

the case might have passed its prescription date already....any lawyer her to comment on this?
newei, di mo naman kelangan problemahin cgro yung nangyari kasi its way too long na rin.
tsaka when i was reading it, parang may sense of xerex stories eh....

joke...
keep us posted, joanna....

kinky gal · « **Reply #7 on:** April 19, 2006, 12:56:24 AM »

hahaaha true gregorio!!

maui25 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 19, 2006, 01:07:31 AM »

Quote from: gregorio on April 17, 2006, 04:04:20 PM

Quote from: joanna on March 30, 2006, 11:36:09 PM
hello.. new here... prob lng ng isang kakilala ko... grade 5 daw sya nung una... tpos may anak yung isang 3rd cousin nya... c kuya michael... eh gustong gusto nyang kinakarga yung bata... minsan nung karga nya yung pamangkin nya, dumatimh yung father c kuya michael nga daw... tpos kinuha muna yung anak.. kapag kuha kay clyde sa frend ko, natouch yung breast nya... hnde nya nman daw pinansin kc nga daw, kala nya wala lng... tpos, pagkakuha nya ulit sa bata, gnun ulit... bsta lging gnun... tpos 1 tym daw, sya lng mag isa sa haus nila, pumasok yung cousin nya, tpos habang naghuhugas daw sya ng pinggan, hinawakan yung breast nya, umiwas sya pero ayaw nman sya bitiwan... patinigin lng daw ng dede nya... eh nakulitan n daw siya, hinayaan nya n lng, tpos dinede daw, pinipigilan nya nung una, pero ayaw daw tumigil, eh ang sarap daw... hanggang sa naramdaman niya n lng daw n nakapasok n s short nya yung hands hnggang fininger n sya...

the case might have passed its prescription date already....any lawyer her to comment on this?
newei, di mo naman kelangan problemahin cgro yung nangyari kasi its way too long na rin.
tsaka when i was reading it, parang may sense of xerex stories eh.... joke...

hahaha! dapat nga siguro dun sa erotic stories ito.. (halata ba na binabasa ko?
keep us posted, joanna....

TheBachelorGirl · « **Reply #9 on:** April 19, 2006, 07:16:01 AM »

The question re the validity of the case based on timing is an excellent one. I saw in Oprah the class action suit that was brought against the priests by the boys they molested, many of whom are adults in their late 20s and 30s, so definitely the event happened at least 10 years past.

Of course, the laws might be different here in the Philippines. Let me ask a couple of lawyers and I'll post next week.

However, the sad thing about this is the fact that even though it may have happened several years ago, the negative effects of the incident may continue. According to Wikepedia, "The majority of experts believe that CSA {child sexual abuse} is innately harmful to minors.

"A wide range of psychological, emotional, physical, and social effects has been attributed to child sexual abuse, including anxiety, depression, obsession, compulsion, grief, post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms such as flashbacks, emotional numbing, pseudo-maturity symptoms, and other more general dysfunctions such as sexual dysfunction, social dysfunction, dysfunction of relationships, poor education and employment records, eating disorders, self-mutilation, and a range of physical symptoms common to some other forms of PTSD, such as sensual numbness, and loss of appetite (see Smith et al., 1995). Additionally, young females who are victims of abuse may encounter additional trauma by pregnancy and birth complications."

TheBachelorGirl · « **Reply #10 on:** April 20, 2006, 07:00:29 AM »

Nakausap ko po si Atty. Almodiel at ito po ang sinabi niya tungkol sa statutory rape:

1. Kailangan nangyari ito sa victim ng siya ay 12 taong gulang o mas bata pa.
2. Maaaring mag-file ng case 15-20 taon pagkatapos ng incident.

Sa kaso po ng kaibigan mo, Joanna, kung nangyari ang pag-finger sa kaniya ng 12 taon o mas bata pa siya, maaari niyang ikaso ang kaniyang pinsan na si Kuya Michael ng statutory rape.

Doon sa isa niyang pinsan, hindi mo nasabi kung ilang taon siya nung nangyari, pero kung ito ay nangyari din noong siya ay 12 taong gulang o mas bata pa, maaari din niyang kasuhan ito ng statutory rape.

So, for example, kung nangyari ang pag-finger sa kaniya ni Kuya Michael noong 11 taong gulang siya, maaari siyang mag-file ng case hanggang 31yo siya. Pero advisable na huwag siya maghintay ng ganoong katagal dahil mawawalan siya ng credibility.

Ang advantage ng statutory rape ay kilangan lang i-prove ang edad ng bata para ito ay masabing rape.

Pero Joanna, ang mas mahalaga ay makausap ng kaibigan mo ang isang trusted adult para matulungan siyang i-consider ang kaniyang mga options. Pwede siyang mag-therapy lamang at hindi maghabla.

Kung gusto niya pwede niyang makausap ang isang counselor sa telepono para hindi siya kilala o makita. Ang Bantay Bata ay mayroong 24 Hotline 1-6-3 for crisis calls and counseling. Just dial 163.

"A 24-hour hotline call center provides immediate response nationwide to cases of child abuse through a rescue team, on-line counseling and referrals handled by trained counselors and social workers working on a daily 3-shift basis."

Good luck at God bless.

xthyn_18 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2006, 01:55:41 PM »

sexual harassment na po yn...
kso ang problema pumayag sya tsaka
alam nya pla fininger sya bkt hindi pa
xa umiiwas sa mga cousins nya...

goodghost · « **Reply #12 on:** February 04, 2008, 10:08:16 PM »

hmmm oo nga sexual abuse na ito.. by force eh... wawa naman ang bata...

... minor pa ang bata... juvenile pa lang.. wala pa sa wastong gulang.. pinagsamantalahan na yan..

sa ganyang palagay ask the girl.. if she wants to file a case against those men... that done it.. kse future nya masisira.. psychologically... im sure with that.. trauma yan..

kamote · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:31:39 PM »

Statutory rape, Qualified seduction, Child Abuse, reckless imprudence resulting to physical injury, assault ang pwedeng ikaso jan.

Hindi porket matagal ng nangyare e hindi na pwedeng Ipakulong ang mga hayup na yan. Hindi pwedeng i rason na matagal ng nangyare yan at kalimutan na lang.

Hindi porket sa tingin ng iba e pumayag ka at hinayaan mo na lang na finggerin ka nila e lusot na yung mga yun. I remember a case before na sa tingin ng iba e pumapayag yung girl na magpagamit pero dahil sa trauma na lang e hindi na sya nakakapanlaban.

Kung ako sayo samahan mo ang kaibigan mo at pumunta kay atty kat legarda or sa pao. Pwede ka din dumulog sa women s desk sa pinakamalapit mong presinto pero mas mabuti pag me kasama ka ng abogado para mas me bigat ang sinasabi mo sa mga pulis.

fatalframe · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:54:48 PM »

i think this is some sort of corruption of minor...

the "abuser" has the authority, the power, the influence kaya yung "abused" napasunod na lang...

it doesn't matter if she liked it...
she wasn't supposed to feel it!!! di dapat sya ginanon para maramdaman nya yun dahil wala pa sya sa hustong gulang...

lastmanstanding · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2008, 12:13:59 PM »

putulin ang tuytuy ng hayop na yun.. pag ako may anak na babae at ginawa sa kanya yun.. mawawala na lang sa mundo yung lalaking yun.. pero para di brutal.. itali sya.. lagyan ng mighty bong ang tuytuy at idikit sa pwet..

abbytotsky · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2008, 09:32:38 PM »

parang nabasa ko na 2 before sa xerex.. ..if this things still happening right now she should do something to put an end to this hindi porke masarap papayagan na lang niya na gawin sa kanya yun tas now mamomoblema kc cuz niya yung gumagawa.if this thing naman happened nung bata pa siya i think my isip na siya nung nangyari yun feeling ko d naman siya tinakot wyl doing it sa kanya so y d siya nagsumbong sa parents niya.

but to answer your question..if grade 5 ako at ginawa skin yun i dont think masasarapan ako para kcng scary yung feeling na yun para sa mga bata na ganon pa lang ang edad.Matic yun lagot siya sa mommy ko!

rx_magic · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2008, 10:55:51 AM »

This is considered as Child abuse and there is no limit to the validity of the case since the effect of such actions has a huge impact on the life of the victim.

In this case it does not matter whether the girl liked it or not, nor does it even matter whether she gave her consent because she was in the 5th grade the first time it happened and as such is considered a minor during the time of the incident.

Statutory rape is considered as consensual sexual intercourse between a male and female one of which is under the age of consent. This means that it does not matter whether she liked it or whether she let him do it. Since the law considers her a minor during the time of the incident and her "Kuya Michael" is and adult, he can be convicted with statutory rape and Child Abuse and molestation.

A person who has been subjected to this type of abuse has to deal with several issues most of which involves the shame of being a victim of both rape and sexual abuse and the fear of being blamed for the situation. Just read through most of the replies within this thread.

I would wonder if they ever took into account that the girl mentioned was still in the 5th grade meaning that she was just a child not even a teenager yet when it happened.

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